Angie Bowies Newest Book – Lipstick Legends

Angie Bowie is currently promoting her newest book on glam rock, Lipstick Legends.

Angie Bowie LTW!: You have a new book out… Angie Bowie: It’s about glam rock. It’s about the characters that inhibited the entertainment business at that time. Somebody suggested that it would be an interesting revamp to look at the whole things as patterns of social fabric, making it a lot more available to people.  I talked with Alice Cooper, Kim Fowley; mainly musicians and entertainers and we all came to the conclusion that it was a sexual revolution, something different.  So the scoop on it, I suppose is that it is very down to earth and straightforward.  I’m quite straightforward with the things I believe in and talk about. LTW!: Where are all the controversial stories? Angie Bowie: What controversial stories? Nothing was real that scandalous, it might have appeared scandalous at the time, but it really wasn’t that scandalous. LTW!: There isn’t a mention of the David Bowie- Mick Jagger love affair… Angie Bowie: There is no bearing of that and Lipstick Legends. I’ve already discussed it, why would I discuss it again? It really has no relevance and just because two strange rock and roll entertainers get drunk and fall into bed together, what’s that scandalous about that. Nothing that I am aware of… LTW!: At the time it was a huge scandal! Angie Bowie: I did not think it was scandalous, I never did. American can be very conservative. It’s a strange thing. You’ve lived here and, like you said, are getting ready for your Prom and doing your games and writing, as hobbies but once you start getting the opportunities (excuse me if I’m wrong, you may have done several circles around the world and visited everywhere), but for the most part I think the things that astonish us here are old news in most places. It’s not that scandalous anywhere else. LTW!: Isn’t being conservative good to a certain degree, though? Angie Bowie: Where we came from with rock and roll, which I talk about in Lipstick Legends, from Jayne County to Leee Black Childers to Kim Fowley, who are Americans who actually lived through the fifties and sixties. The discrimination, the apartheid, the movie industry censor in the South. It’s funny, we think about it now and it almost doesn’t compete.  It is much more exciting when conservative is peaked with imagination, the same with sexuality. At a certain time we had to realize that gay people, needed to be treated like the rest of us. LTW!: Does cutting edge need to be underground or, at least, get its start underground? Angie Bowie: I think that most cutting edges have to remain underground, it may appear later, but it must remain underground.  Exist in philosophy, you can’t go to the supermarket and talk about it. The crazy Germans. The Iggy Pop followers. You can’t really expect an average person to think that it is relevant in their lives. Most people don’t even have time to get the kids food on their table.  Now we understand the consequences on this type of recession, where inflation has pulled the air out of us. LTW!: Sartre or Nietzsche? Angie Bowie: Sartre, I prefer the French philosophers… LTW!: Was it love at first sight? Was it ever love? Angie Bowie: I don’t think it was ever love, not from his point of view.  Before we got married he told me he didn’t love me, and I thought, “That’s a great way to start it off!” I had another way to looking at it, but he wouldn’t let me go and he would not bring himself to say that he loved me, you know, sometimes that’s okay. It was weird, but it was okay. LTW!: David Bowie, the best copy cat out there? Angie Bowie: Uhhh, I don’t know! Sometimes, on a day when one is feeling kinda weird…. Adam Ant always makes such a big deal on David being such a copycat David is, so I don’t really think that one can just dismiss him as a copycat. He’s too good of a writer and entertainer.  A lot of people cleave to that, if in the end the substance of your success is how many people you reach and are in awe and have respect for you, and then he has accomplished that. It’s sort of just talk, you know what I mean?  He’s known all over the world, and loved and respected by his fans. LTW!: Essentially rock and roll is the copying and redistribution of music, correct? Angie Bowie: Exactly. LTW!: How did Cherry Vanilla and Wayne County work behind the scenes to make Ziggy, who he was? Angie Bowie:  Wayne County was never behind the scenes. She was out performing all the time.  When he was put on ice by MainMan that was a way of slowing down his ability to push forward.  And when Cherry started to preform, nothing slowed her down.   A lot of the record companies crack the whip, there is a lot of frustration for the artist because their imagination is huge and they can just keep going. I would imagine there was a great deal of frustration too.  They are both wonderful wordsmiths and lyricist. Cherry is just amazing, and always has been. She’s just brilliant. She has a charming and easy way with people that she was able to bring David a lot of success. I went out on the road doing radio shows and grinding David’s records to get played. It was bizarre, because I was there during the actual creative process I could explain it on radio, and people loved that, they loved that I took the time to go out and talk about it all. LTW!: You were such a fundamental role in MainMan, and in your book you mention you didn’t know that Jayne was put on ice by MainMan and even though she was promised to record with Mick Ronson and had recorded Live at the Trucks, it was all shelved… Angie Bowie: Yeah, it was a bizarre, interesting feature.  They took all the of MainMan and said, “We have to think of a way to divorce Angela, she comes into the office, she acts like she’s a part of it.”  It was OUR office; we were funding the entire thing! There was a lot of politicking and to see what resources would be used. But it was coming out of David’s hide; he was working like a dog.  He was filming, recording, touring. That caused a reality check for the powers that had been at MainMan, and a lot of people. LTW!: “Rebel Rebel” is “Queenage Baby?”* Angie Bowie: That I don’t know about much, because I didn’t run around in rehearsals. I only went to mixing in the studio. By the time we went to New York I was really working on his career in a more general way.  After I had done the Johnny Carson show it had become quite obvious I could the media end of it.  I took care of Iggy Pop & the Stooges on the road, I went to Detroit to see his roots…I was doing what David wanted me to do. I don’t even know when he would have heard it, when he would of nicked it. BUT, most people learn by hearing, and borrowing! I just don’t know, I can’t answer for a fact. But he did but him on ice, and he might not even have released it.  Tony Defries might have just realized that he didn’t want to spend anymore of David’s money on Jayne County. I have no idea. Jayne does feel, I’ve interviewed Jayne, that “Rebel Rebel” came from that song. Jayne is my very dear friend, and she does think that. Which is right, I don’t know. LTW!: You also have had a few records out… Angie Bowie: Yes, I have another album that is going to be made in a few months, actually.  It’s called “Tangerine Music,” you’re the first person I’ve actually told about it! It’s going to be produced by Tangerine Music. LTW!: Can we expect a collaboration with Jimi LaLumia? Angie Bowie: Absolutely, and Jimi LaLumia is one of my favorite people on the planet. He is just so dear.  We did a benefit for cancer, once, and it was just funny as hell!  I looked at him and he looked at me, and he said “Are you willing to bear your breasts for cancer?” and I tore my t-shirt off and danced around.  We did fun things together; he’s a wonderful guy and another fan of Cherry’s! LTW!: How did you originally hook up with Paul Zone and Man Parrish? Angie Bowie: Through Cherry, of course! LTW!: Is the New York scene always one that has caught your eye? Angie Bowie: Nope. No, the only reason was of any interest to me of all was because I was there in 1966 when I was in college and I saw Tim Buckley, all in a little strip in the Village.  I saw all these things in one weekend. I saw the Warhol Exhibit… I’ve been to New York many times; I would go with my dad to the Natural History Museum, stuff that was younger girlish.  Once I figured out how much art and poetry there was, then I became interested.  The first time I was published was when I was seven years old. I was just floored on how fantastic it was.  We came back in 1971, 1972, David and I went to see Elvis Presley, that was RCA’s present to us to see Elvis in Madison Square Garden. I thought, “This isn’t so bad!”  Then Cherry and I would go to all these vintage clothing stores and we really started having a blast! LTW!: Is there still a New York scene? Is there a scene anywhere? Angie Bowie: Yes, there are.  There are plenty of scenes where cultures collide and excited results. I think we have to go away from the cities that are now preserving their traditionalism that they have become boring. London is still very exciting, New York is very exciting but Sydney is a BLAST! It’s a great happening city. I think we are going to find that South America, those great South American cities are going to have those same great outpouring of culture as they figure out what they are doing. LTW!: What do you try to accomplish with the music you create? Angie Bowie: I like to say something useful, but it’s gotta be danceable. I write lyrics and I love to dance. I have a very sort of long musical training and I just want to be specific. LTW!: Is that what David tried to capture, as well? Angie Bowie: I don’t know how to react to that . . .He’s fairly straightforward; he gets moment of grandeur and arrogance. I don’t think he’s done drugs for a long time, I don’t even know if he’s released anything recently. I haven’t followed his career for 20 years; I can’t compare what he’s doing now to what he did then.  Then, he was just a magpie picking up pieces of information and smacking them together in a collage, art student crap. If it flew it flew, if it didn’t he moved on to the next thing. LTW!: What artists, recently, have caught your eye? Angie Bowie: Daniel Lismore is one of my favorites! Under music, I don’t know what I’ve heard recently. LTW!: How do you see her legacy with Bowie at this point? Is it a bone of contention or a source of pride knowing you had an essential role in David finding himself as an artist? Angie Bowie:  No, it’s not a bone of contention. LTW!: Does the world need another Ziggy Stardust? Angie Bowie: If the world needs another one, there will be another one. That’s like saying does the world need another Romeo and Juliet. LTW!: How can people find your book? Angie Bowie: Google me! LTW!: Are you doing a tour to promote it? Angie Bowie: I’m going to be in Atlanta in May 11, I’ll be in Detroit, and I’ll be in Ann arbor, Michigan, San Francisco, Santa Barbara. I’ll be in Europe in November. We are making a big effort with this one, because the next book called Pop Sex, I’ve had this book ready to go for 10 years. It’s not about music but it’s a really funny book. It’s about sexuality all over the world. All the bizarre and off the wall, sexual morals of people. It’s really funny! LTW!: Thanks so much for the time! Do you have any advice for the struggling authors out there? Angie Bowie: Just carry on, don’t be discouraged. Don’t let it get you down, don’t think you will be unremembered or unappreciated. Sometimes, hanging in is the best and for writers the most useful thing I ever I came across. *”Queenage Baby” is a Wayne County song that critics agree was a prototype for “Rebel Rebel” Source: https://louderthanwar.com/angie-bowie-an-interview/ - By on Apr 23, 2012